Hopbot log for 2008-01-21 - Helma IRC channel: #helma on irc.freenode.net

2008-01-21:

[4:51] <jamestag> hi, just fyi: i just tried accessing http://helma.org/docs/guide/introductions/applications/ and i'm getting a "too many connections" db error.
[7:58] <zumbrunn> thanks jamestag, I'll inform hannes as soon as he comes online, so he can look into it
[13:55] <zumbrunn> hypersmil, thanks ...the hopbot is back
[14:00] <zumbrunn> ...and yep, I got the helma-cvs spam also
[15:21] <hypersmil> how does the hopbot work, is it written in helma(js)/java?
[15:26] <zumbrunn> it's pircbot based
[15:26] <zumbrunn> http://www.jibble.org/pircbot.php
[15:26] <zumbrunn> I'm using the pircbot java classes inside a helma app
[15:27] <zumbrunn> so, helma controls the pircbot
[15:28] <zumbrunn> but helma currently just reads the external pircbot log files to generate the log web pages
[15:28] <zumbrunn> helma isn't directly listening/logging the channel
[15:31] <zumbrunn> I can go to the shell of the hopbot helma app and enter the command...
[15:31] <zumbrunn> global.hopbot.sendMessage('#helma','Hello');
[15:31] <zumbrunn> and I get...
[15:35] <zumbrunn> http://helma.pastebin.com/f5c3e0377
[15:38] <zumbrunn> (logbot is a sub-project of pircbot)
[16:10] <hypersmil> so pircbot is started from helma, pircbots writes to file, helma reads from file -> is there a way to read directly from pricbot, meaning to get the onMessage method call?
[16:11] <zumbrunn> yes, it should be possible
[16:11] <zumbrunn> I had a hard time to get it working though
[16:12] <zumbrunn> and so did tobi, I believe, until hannes made some changes in helma
[16:12] <zumbrunn> tobi also did some probing with pircbot and helma
[16:13] <zumbrunn> (which resulted in "shutdown day the helma way")
[16:13] <zumbrunn> http://zumbrunn.com/mochazone/Shutdown-Day+the+Helma+way/
[16:16] <hypersmil> an early version of helma REPL :)
[16:17] <zumbrunn> :-)
[17:10] <bard> *speechless*
[18:43] <zumbrunn> http://helma.zumbrunn.net/downloads/anteportas/jhino-0.7.tar.gz
[18:44] <zumbrunn> (the e4xd demo app I promised some days ago)
[18:51] <zumbrunn> and the related proposal for Helma 1.7:
[18:51] <zumbrunn> http://dev.helma.org/wiki/Additional+Filename+Conventions/
[19:23] <peter_12> ping
[19:23] <zumbrunn> pong :-)
[19:24] <peter_12> so I've been playing around with server-side JavaScript for a while. Seems to me something like Helma is the only realistic option right now. It has all the Java goodies and is easy-ish to deploy with Jetty.
[19:24] <peter_12> So why isn't helma taking off as the greatest thing ever?
[19:24] <zumbrunn> you tell me ;-)
[19:25] <peter_12> It seems so obvious to me to use JavaScript on the server-side
[19:25] <peter_12> sharing code and all
[19:25] <zumbrunn> one thing that certainly slows it down for part of the audience is that it requires java
[19:25] <peter_12> I thought that was a downside at first but now I think that is a huge plus
[19:25] <zumbrunn> it's not as easy to get hosting for it as php lamp type hosting
[19:26] <peter_12> general Rhino folks and jRuby and jython folks think the same
[19:26] <peter_12> zumbrunn: I suppose that is true
[19:26] <zumbrunn> just from the hosting point of view it's a downside right now
[19:27] <peter_12> I'm past that stage in my web development now. Java Hosting is <$20/mo now
[19:27] <peter_12> actually I don't want $5/mo
[19:27] <peter_12> the service sucks
[19:27] <zumbrunn> right :-)
[19:28] <peter_12> at those profit margins the service should suck!
[19:28] <peter_12> haha
[19:28] <peter_12> zumbrunn: are the you the Helma project lead and/or founder?
[19:29] <zumbrunn> no, that's hannes
[19:29] <zumbrunn> I'm just helping out
[19:29] <zumbrunn> playing nanny for the project
[19:29] <peter_12> does hannes still do much work?
[19:29] <zumbrunn> sure, all the time
[19:29] <peter_12> ahh ok
[19:30] <zumbrunn> we just released helma 1.6.1 after all
[19:30] <zumbrunn> (last week)
[19:30] <peter_12> ahh. I haven't paid so much attention in the last bit. Holidays and all
[19:30] <peter_12> congrats
[19:30] <zumbrunn> :-)
[20:22] <Tr0y> hello?

 

 

In the channel now:

Logs by date: